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Old 06-11-2008, 08:22 AM
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The last picture/ just a few tweeks needed to tidy the scroll up.

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Old 06-11-2008, 08:44 AM
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Thanks Phil
Can you show me the different tools than you use to make the carving.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:06 AM
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Phil

As always beautiful work.

Thank You so for sharing your techniques with us.

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Old 06-11-2008, 09:46 AM
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Phil,

I thought it looked great before the tweeks but it looks amazing after those tweeks. Are those going to be gold cape buffalo's in the white spaces or are they going to be bulino or buffalo's at all.
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:15 AM
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Phil

I don't mean to change the subject or take away from this Post.

I almost hate to ask a question (I don't want to take up a lot of your time).

But I am trying to learn Bolino.

I have been studying your presidents pictures In Portrait1.jpg

It looks like you start by making cuts In what will be the darkest areas.

In the second photo and succeeding Photos do you cut over the first sets of cuts at a different angles to arrive at different degrees of darkness.

Could you submit a photo of a sketch with In Ink or felt tip pen of how you would make the cuts.

I don't mean a drawing (would take way to much time) just a few pen strokes.

First cuts, second cuts, Etc.

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Old 06-11-2008, 10:30 AM
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hi Phil .. thanks for showing some of your methods to carved engraving , could you show us how you get the smooth and final finish ,, thanks ron p
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:01 PM
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The shaping of the leaves is done with standard flat chisels, you then refine the shapes with finer push flat chisels, scrapers and burnishers are used for the final smooth finish.

Ken,
To achieve black you have to make sure your tool really sharp, cut a series of lines and then cut over these lines only in a different direction, do this about four or five times, make sure your lines are very close to each other and not too deep. There's no magical formular.On the last pass, cut from right to left with diagonal lines, very light and close together.

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Old 06-11-2008, 01:14 PM
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Gee Phil, no one can say you don't get with the program! That's knowing where you want to go and getting there with no delay. A great tutorial in a few photos and a few comments. You are a Prince for sharing your knowledge with everyone so freely. Regards...Sam.
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Nice job Phil, I noticed on the back ground That there was a first surface and then a refined surface, How did you get the clean refined surface and did you use a rotatry to get the first surfac?

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Old 06-11-2008, 01:36 PM
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Thanks Phil, You are helping alot of us that are just learning so thanks again...
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:06 PM
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Im interested in seeing your tooling, specifically the scraper/burnisher setup...that really intriques me.

Thanks for sharing
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:17 PM
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Phil
Thank you for taking the time to show us guys how to do your fabulous work, and the comments with them. One thing you don't have to worry about is a lot of "coppy kats"! haha

Boy, if there was ever a time when you wanted to "give a class" in 3d scroll work, I'm sure there would be a lot of signer uppers!

Just amazing work Phil! But then there are a lot of amazing engravers on this site who do really fantastic work.

So, we ALL applaud US! (but really admire your 3d work)
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:46 PM
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Phil

Thank You Very Much.

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Old 06-12-2008, 01:00 AM
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The animals will be carved cape buffalo.
The background is cut with flat chisels and then scraped.
Carving is difficult to explain in words, it really has to be visual, and before you start, you have to "SEE" in your mind the shapes.
Ken,
When you cut those lines, instead of producing long ones, cut a series of short ones very close together.

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Old 06-12-2008, 10:34 AM
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Phil

You can really see the changes in the last three pictures. It goes from very nice scroll to sculpted beauty. I'm guessing it's all that elbow grease you apply that makes everything so smooth and shiny. :p
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:51 PM
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Steve, i'll be looking to get another pot of it after this gun.
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:48 PM
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One way to get a good idea of just how he does it is to do it in wood with woodworking tools and you can learn it almost anywhere - in a wood shop class or even in books. The technique is exactly the same - it is low relief carving.

Buy some basswood and some carving chisels and start practicing. The only difference between wood and metal is the cost (woods cheaper).
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:23 PM
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Thanks Phil for the input. Are your scrapers knife type scrapers or bent scrapers. I don't seem to visualize them for the tight spaces.

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Old 06-13-2008, 01:01 AM
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Just make one with a point with the point angle something like 40 degrees.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:45 AM
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Hi Phil,
You make your scrapers with 3 faces?
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:25 AM
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One scraping face.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:39 AM
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? Are you a draw or a picture of that sharpening?
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:01 PM
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Hi Phil, I'm interested in all things engraving but I have zero experience, looking to get started soon.

I was wondering if you had power tools, or hand push/h&c?
Is it possible to do work like this(carving) with hand push graves,or even if possible do people do it?

-thanks! :D
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:31 AM
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Phil,

Thank you for sharing such valuable knowledge on the carving end of things. You are quite the gentleman for doing so. I can't tell you how much this helps. Thanks again from all of us on the forum...You're an inspiration. Any chance of you showing a few of these tools your using for the carving? Scrapers, abrassive rubber, punches? Please? Thanks!!!

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Old 10-03-2008, 03:22 AM
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Hi Phil,
That piece of carving is fantastic,Please show us the tools you used.
Its superb!
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